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was honored. >> you know lindsey graham is ready. >> in the coming days and weerks i'm going to continue reaching out. >> he's absolutely determined to get something done. >> the gop has been tagged the party of no. >> now you have speaker boehner saying -- >> the president got his tax hikes. he got his tax hikes. the president got his tax hikes. >> there is still incentive among a lot of republicans to not cooperate with this president. >> all they really need is a hug and a lunch. >> i wish he had done more of that over the years. >> president obama is not their mom. >> where this goes, i don't know. >> there is a caucus of common sense in the coming days and coming weeks. i'm going to keep on reaching out. >> i've been relatively fair to barack obama. >> he doesn't do anything. >> it's jack what you're saying. >> he's not trying to solve the fiscal cliff. now i'm really angry. >>> president obama has just finished a working dinner with 12 republican senators, the start of an outreach campaign that will include visits with the full republican caucuses in both the house and the senate.
this fixed. get everybody in the room and you fix it. >> okay! >> is it just that easy? >> lindsey graham says that the president has called him -- >> the president had conversations with republicans and democrats. >> -- and wants to do a big budget deal. >> a new hope for a bigger bargain. >> there's a caucus of common sense out there. >> you are lying here! >> don't just sit is there and call me a liar. >> no! >> there is a caucus of common sense here. >> why are you yelling? >> okay! >> i'm not saying yes. i'm just not saying no. >> i think i know how to recycle those old bush 2000 yard signs. >> bush may actually be running. >> he is very serious about the idea of running for president. >> we can't continue to make illegal immigration an easier path than legal immigration. >> he's backing down on moderation. >> a path to citizenship, which i would support. >> and trying to prove his conservative bona fides. >> i don't see how you do it. we wrote this book last year. i have supported bo both. >> left to right, left to right, he's starting to look like mitt romney. it's not a good place
note the absence of senior defense-minded senators like john mccain and lindsey graham, in the pitter patter of applause. and today we got an earful of why. >> but somehow to allege that the united states of america, our government, would drop a drone hell fire missile on jane fonda, that is -- that brings the conversation from a serious discussion about u.s. policy to the realm of the ridiculous. >> and when john mccain wasn't placing him in the realm of the ridiculous, lindsey graham offered his fellow republicans a tour of the hinterlands of hypocrisy. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up. what are we up to here? >> a very interesting question, senator graham. very interesting indeed. let's get right to our panel now. here with me in new york is msnbc contributor ari melber, a correspondent for "the nation." and in washington msnbc political analyst david corn of "mother jones" ma
republicans including senator john mccain and lindsey graham are slamming his public protest. and members of their own party who joined him. >> the country needs more senators who care about liberty. but if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college remember dos. dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. you know. i don't even remember the harshest critics of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. so what is it, all of a sudden, that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> kids in their college dorms. in an interview, paul hit back at some of those republican critics. >> i think they're on the wrong side of history on this one. they are of the belief that the war is everywhere. so they kind of
about. >> senators john mccain and lindsey graham's scathing response to paul's nearly 13-hour -- >> i thought it was rather insulting for the way that these gentlemen responded to this. >> your words, senator, john mccain and senator lindsey graham fighting vehemently to defend president obama's policy. it was a little disorienting. >> joining me right now is senator bernie sanders of vermont, a member of the senate budget committee. sir, good to have you here. we start with what politico is putting out as the headline. grand bargain back with a question mark. we look at what paul ryan said after lunch with the president, where i think hope is being borne from. everyone needs to be part of this conversation. we need an open debate about how best to balance the budget and expand opportunities. so, sir, outside of the lines of the continuing resolution coming out of the house side. what you month would you guesstimate that we mae get the grand bargain? >> the issue is not the grand bargain. the issue is what's in the grand bargain. when you have growing inequality, 100% of all new incom
, and then some of these senators, people like john mccain, kelly ayotte, lindsey graham, are people that are bothered by the defense cuts and sequester and might be willing to make concessions. what you hear from republicans in the house is, well, all the president has put on the table is tax increases, and that's not true, but half is tax increases, and republicans are never really going to like that. this is the group that you might convince to cut a deal with. >> although lindsey graham said, hey, we will put revenue on the table if the president is serious about entitlement reform, and that was not long ago. we just showed some tape, richard, of paul ryan entering the white house. i think that's -- i mean, look, we talked a lot yesterday about whether this is a good thing or a bad thing, whether it will amount to much. i think at the end of the day it's a win-win situation for both sides. republicans look less obstructionist. the white house looks like they are finally heeding the advice that the president needs to engage more, and the country sees the two sides talking, if not
. >> and lindsey graham calls out his own party. >> i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. >> tonight, james carville on the republican chaos on the senate floor. and i'll also tell you about an actual filibuster that matters. and why leader harry reid is to blame. >>> paul ryan visits the white house. and the president is getting ready to serve up the big three. senator bernie sanders joins me to tell the president to hold the line on earned benefits. >>> and netflix strikes gold with the political drama "house of cards." >> your life, peter, and what i know about it, you should assume there's no such thing aas a secret. >> tonight actor michael kelly is here with all the latest on his hit series. >> good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. last night on this program we showed you this chart from the southern poverty law center. the number of extreme militia groups in america is at an all-time high. record high. now, today everyone is lathered up and talking about how senator rand paul is so fantastic
to a group of republicans. lindsey graham, rob portman, bob corker, tom coburn and susan collins. >> i expect the president to talk to various members. frankly i wish he had done more of that over the years. we've had all of us very limited interaction with the president. he certainly doesn't have to go through me to call my members. >>> so on the international front, seven days of mourning have begun for the polarizing leader of venezuela. live pictures as people are coming on ultimate en masse. the body being moved from a military hospital where he died taking through the streets and mass crowds. people started filling the roads last night as of news came he lost his two-year battle with cancer. as required by the constitution, an election is set for 30 days from now. the white house issuing this statement, saying at this challenging time, the united states reaffirms its support for the venezuelan people and its interest in develop -- that relationship, as we all know, between chavez and the president, that was a rocky one, straight up to the end. there was no u.s. am intoes do recall there
limbaughs, but also the backlash he got from john mccain and lindsey graham, who said this isn't the type of position on national security our party should be taking. >> on the democratic side, we saw joe biden's schedule. seems to touch on all the groups you would need to touch on to come through a democratic primary. but this far out, we're in march of 2013, it seems to me that it's hillary, and that decision, and that's it. from the aides i've talked to, if she wants it, it's hers. no one can challenge her at this point. there's no barack obama coming around. >> that's why we'll probably not get an answer from her for a couple of years, which is why all the activity that we're seeing is happening on the republican side. not only was rand paul making waves, jeb bush. we saw marco rubio taking center stage giving his state of the union response to president obama. all these republicans seem to be doing little different things to at least dip their toes in the 2016 waters to prepare themself for something still three years away. >> the pressure on hillary is unbelievable. lastly, carl lev
meet the military requirement for a military tribunal. >> for the lindsey grahams of the world who say gitmo all the time. that's fine. but those who say military commissions, military commissions, sorry, but he can't be charged with material support for terrorism, which can carry a life sentence, because that is disallowed at a legal matter in military commission. but keep in mind the administration backed down from trying kalib shake mohammad in manhattan after police said security would cost $200 million per year. this trial is expect it to take three weeks. >> shepard: thanks very much. juror john mccain is with us now, member of the snarl averaged services committee, the senate committee on homeland security, back home in arizona. senator, thank you. >> thank you. >> how do you feel about this trial in lower manhattan? >> well, of course i'd be very interested in these days of sequestration how much the security costs will be. but importantly in the short term, if this individual got his miranda rights, which i'm confident he did, because any good lawyer is going to tell his or he
it looks like. lindsey graham commented on putting the group together. let's listen to lindsey graham. >> how do you say no to the president of the united states who would like to have dinner with some of your colleagues? you don't. when the president asked that i get together a group, i willingly and i was honored to try to do that. where this goes, i don't know. >> see how to explain the whole thing. almost apologizing for meeting with the president. the president will meet separately with the democratic and republican caucuses in both the house and the senate. joining me right now nia-malika henderson who covers all this. and former mayor willie brown. thank you for joining us. i want to talk about the appearance of this and the reality of this, which is more important? >> it is the appearance of it. for all reasons fall beyond anything we can ever fathom, this is the kind of thing that should have been done from the first day that the president was elected. he should have been able to develop a relationship with every person holding office one on one by first name. many times you
, kelly ai yacht, lindsey graham. stoo several republicans in recent days. senator graham on tuesday described his phone call as and i'm quoting, the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of hissed. si. get that man an extra glass of his favorite reislin. a continuing resolution that led to democratic outrage on the floor. >> this is a disgraceful bill. and this process is not on the level. we have a budget that is doubling down on grinding down on the middle class. >> wall street is celebrating while the backs of poor people are been broken. this is not a rule that should pass today. we should remain snowed out. we shouldn't even be here. snow us out until we can get the right kind of balance. >> despite that clear opposition, it did pass keeping in place the sequester cuts while softening the blow for defense naturally. expected to take it up next week saying they'll oppose the measure without a vote to defund the affordable care act. i guess bitterness is always a dish best served cold. while we're on the subject of last year's leftovers, here
here in the studio together. republican senator john mccain and republican senator lindsey graham. both in want studios. senator graham-- >> next qwester we're including you. ( laughter ) >> schieffer: i want to start off, senator graham, with something-- parent of that speech you said on the senate floor because it seemed to really kind of sum up the week that washington just went through. >> to me, this is pathetic leadership by the commander in chief. this is an abandonment of the republican party's belief in peace through strength. this is the low point in highway time independent united states congress. >> schieffer: and bill kristol, the editor of the "weekly standard" kind of the voice of establishment republicans he said the republicans have now-- his words, not mine-- "joined the president on the road to irresponsibility." he says, "history will judge both your republican party and the president harshly saying they were weighed in the balance and found wanting." so where do you go from here, senator mccain? >> first of all bill kristol is right. and want fact is, we have
likely to cut a deal. among those, lindsey graham of south carolina. >> i'm very encouraged by what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of his presidencpresidency. >> graham has said he would consider increased revenue if it was coupled with changes to entitlement programs. republican leaders say they're not at all interested in discussing more taxes with the president. the tax issue derailed talks over how to derail the sequester, now administration officials say those budget cuts forced them to cancel all public tours of the white house. now more proof that d.c. can argue about anything, the "wall street journal" editorial reads in part this fits president obama's political strategy to punish eighth graders visiting from illinois instead of, say, employees of the agriculture department who will be sampling wine and sampling tasty dishes prepared by special guest chefs. critics also criticiz
republicans, including senators john mccain and lindsey graham are slamming rand's public protest and members of their own party have joined in. >> the country needs more senators who care about liberty. but if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. yeah, i don't even remember the harshest critics of the -- of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> "new york times" photographer caught this image yesterday of what must have been an interesting elevator ride for senators mccain and paul. >>> john brennan who's nomination to lead the cia was temporarily blocked by rand's filibuste
, not everybody did. john mccain and lindsey graham attacked him yesterday on the floor of the senate and accused him of being way out of line. and the more i heard john mccain yesterday the more i said rand paul good job. here is john mccain who dares make this statement on the floor of the senate. >> well, mr. president, i watched some of that -- quote, debate unquote yesterday. i saw colleagues of mine who know better come to the floor and voice this same concern which is totally unfounded. >> bill: so condescending. rand paul got the spot light yesterday and john mccain couldn't stand it and of course his little butt boy lindsey graham because john mccain is upset then lindsey is upset too. oh, yeah and the go ahead that john mccain -- in fact -- went on actually to call at it disservice to raise this issue. >> so we have done i think a disservice to a lot of americans by make them believe that somehow they are in danger from their government. they are not. >> by the way, what have republicans done for the past five or six years? making their terrified that th
, lindsey graham, intra-party scold got a _#of his own. primary graham. if there was any question about just how tense it might be in the upper chamber, the "new york times" ran this photo showing paul and mccain sharing an elevator ride after the elder senator accused the kentucky sion of disservice. hash tag, awkward. stephanie, we have talked ad nauz yum at this point about the lower chamber and the raucus caucus and how difficult a job speaker john boehner has in his words getting the frogs in the wheelbarrow. but this week i think exposed some serious changes, if not a rift within the elder wing -- the elder sort of establishment wing of the republican party in the upper chamber. not just on sequester but with the rand paul talky filibuster. >> i was pleased see that picture because normally there's a democrat standing there getting a scowl. >> i've been on elevators like that myself. you know, i think that, you know, i appreciate what senator mccain and senator graham were trying to say. under no circumstances are americans at home in danger of getting shot by a drone from the u.s. go
cain and lindsey graham coming out in support of what the president has done, lindsey graham calling into question where were republicans during president bush's administration when they were using drones. joining me on set is ayman mull ha dean, you know firsthand from the work you've doane overseas, so we have the house judiciary committee, scheduled toic take up this conversation as well, certainly transparency is something that we want, but when we hear senator mccain mentioning the u.s. citizen that was killed in 2011, there was an op-ed piece in "wall street journal" "wall street journal" talking about what it means to be an enemy combatant. he was considered to be an enemy combatant, but in yemen. can a drone be used here if an enemy combatant is on american soil here. how will the conversation go? >> i think these are fundamental questions that have not been debated in the united states when it comes to applies the drone policy overseas. this is part of the criticism that many have against the united states, particularly allies like pakistan and others. the question -- the fundamental ques
. senator lindsey graham, of south carolina: >> you're putting people like this into federal court, giving them the same constitutional rights as an american citizens. >> warner: similar objections in 2010 forced attorney general eric holder to back down from plans to try alleged 9-11 mastermind khaled sheik mohammed in new york. but today, a white house spokesman, josh earnest, defended going to civilian court. >> they are a... in many ways a more efficient way for us to deliver justice to those who seek to harm the united states of america and that is the >> warner: abu ghaith was returned to prison today. a trial date will be set next month. for more on today's hearing and the decision to try abu ghaith in federal court, i'm joined by jess bravin-- a reporter with the wall street journal and author of the book "the terror courts." and "new york times" reporter william rashbaum who was in the courtroom today. >> welcome, gentlemen, william rushbaum, tell us what it was like in court today, how did it unfold? >> well, mr. abu ghaith was brought into the courtroom in handcuffs. security wa
. >> although lindsey graham, i interviewed him earlier this week. he is part of what they call that caucus of common sense, at least on this issue he made it clear he is ready to work out a big picture deal. let me play this little clip. >> i think the only way out is a big deal. republicans are not going to raise revenue to pay for sequestration. and i don't believe we can really do -- >> you mean raise taxes? >> yeah, eliminating deductions and loopholes, count me in for that but put the money on the debt. >> right, that is the framework of a deal that is out there. further revenue coupled with entitlement reform. the reality is what lindsey graham is saying, republicans can't get what they prized most, the entitlement reform that will slow the growth of government without president obama's signature for the next four years. and the only way to get that is by tying it to revenue. and if you think about the president's long-term goals here, accelerating economic growth delivers better outcomes for the key initiatives is critical. and all of these constant land mine explosions are serving
. >> when you talk about the practical side, krystal, let me show you, james, senator lindsey graham. what he said today about president obama and how the president is still reaching out and we know all of the things graham has said. listen to this. >> he just called me. >> he did? >> yeah. i'm very encouraged about what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. maybe because of sequestration and frustration with the public, the time is right to act. he wants to do the big deal. >> so the president wants to do the big deal. he's doing the right thing according to lindsey graham. i mean, does this mean that there's a possibility that the president can work out a big bargain here or something? some kind of adjustment of compromise, james? >> well, listen. the president is always -- and he's shown himself to be willing and able to compromise. in fact, those of us on the left have been disturbed by some of the compromises that he has made. so he's always moving towards consensus. i think he's always demonstrated he's will
john mccain and lindsey graham, a little wining and dining may help the wheeling and dealing. >> i'd like to congratulate my friend from south carolina for his really best behavior last night at dinner. he was on his best manners and everyone was very impressed. i yield the floor. >> but another dinner guest, senator pat toomey, said the president's plans may be hard to swallow. >> the president still wants to raise taxes a lot and i don't. i think it's a really bad idea. he thinks that's a good idea. so that creates a serious challenge. >> this week we've gone 180. >> a sentiment echoed by house speaker john boehner who welcomes the president to the capitol next week. >> i'm hopeful that something will come out of it. but if the president continues to insist on tax hikes, i don't think we're going to get very far. now, the president did pay for dinner out of his own pocket so the taxpayers did not pick up the tab but it is how to pay down the deficit that is the real issue and, wolf, both sides are nowhere near an agreement on how to cover that check. wolf? >> any more dinner enga
about the treatment of enemy combatants. listen to senator lindsey graham. >> we're putting the administration on notice. we think that sneaking this guy into the country clearly going around the intent of congress when it comes to enemy combatants will be challenged. if this man, the spokesman for 9/11, is not an enemy combatant, who would be? >> joining me, fran townsend, former national security adviser to george w. bush, paul shank, also robert bair, jim richards who recovered his own son's body after 9/11, and attorney allen dursh wits. let me start with you, fran, to tee up what's really happened here because this character was first arrested in turkey. i'm not quite sure what he was doing there. then after 33 days he was released because turkish lot said he had to be. then he was flown to jordan. >> let's talk about what we didn't know. he had been in relative safety in house arrest in iran for a decade. why would he have left iran not knowing if he would have been taken into captivity? we don't know why he went to turkey. it seems pretty clear that the turks didn't w
page, and of course, john mccain, lindsey graham, more hawkish republicans who say he did a disservice to the country by questioning the idea of using what they call necessary tactics. >> and rand paul said at the end of this week, he is seriously running for the republican presidential nomination in 2016. >> not a big surprise, he has hinted that in more ways than one to me and others, i'm sure to you, as well. it was pretty obvious as you saw him out on the campaign trail with his father who ran for president this past election cycle. but he was wanting to be the next paul to run. >> it is one thing to hint, one thing to say. he is a blunt guy, doesn't hold back. all right, dana, very good work this week. thank you very much. >>> and a dramatic turn this week, osama bin laden's son-in-law appearing in a federal court this week in new york, very close to where al-qaeda brought down the world trade center towers. sulaiman abu ghaith pled guilty to a plot to kill americans. he was captured abroad. and the decision to take him to new york versus the facility in guantanamo bay is raising
with lindsey graham kind of creeps me out. he told the truth right? >> as i said, democrats are -- progressives conservatives libertarians greens, you know, pretty much most americans think the idea of giving the executive branch unlimited carte blanche to kill people is a bad and dumb idea. neocons, lindsey graham is a neocon so bingo. >> john: these republicans who didn't complain when bush was doing it and now they complain when obama was doing it. rand paul and his dad had been consistent. thom hartmann, you have the smartest radio show. thank you for coming on with us tonight. >> thank you john. >> john: see you soon. arkansas passes an abortion law that's so restrictive, it will definitely get struck down by the supreme court unless it doesn't. that's coming up. [ male announcer ] it's red lobster's lobsterfest our largest selection of lobster entrees like lobster lover's dream or new grilled lobster and lobster tacos. come in now and sea food differently. visit redlobster.com now for an exclusive $10 coupon on two lobsterfest entrees. >> john: we conclude wtf pen
mccain and his southern bell lindsey graham. i don't remember any of you suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. thank you, lindsay! and have an extra mint julep on me. he said i must say the use of jane fonda's name does bring up certain memories but she acted within her constitutional rights, and to say this is simply false. thank you grampy. thank you grampy. ♪ let's hear it for the boys ♪ ♪ let's give the boy a hand ♪ >> stephanie: fight. fight! and the wall street journal [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: calm down senator. >> i loved that. it was so condescending. >> stephanie: the editorial board was not among those lauding the senator, asking him to calm down. >> they are not one of his fans. >> stephanie: stop it. they brought in ann romney to tell him to stop it. >> ann romney: stop it. this is hard. you want to try it, get in the ring. >> stephanie: you want to try it without a catheter you try it. >> i am not one of your fans! >> stephanie: noting paul's theatrical timing. [♪ magic wand ♪] >> step
cain and lindsey graham, actually going after him, for his tactics in the substance of what he was doing. let's take a listen to that. >> to say that we would hit them in a cafe with a hell fire missile, first of all, no drones have hell fire missiles anywhere near. they're in yemen and afghanistan. and other places in the world. so, we've done a, i think, a disservice to a lot of americans by making them to believe that somehow they're in danger from their government. they're not. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up. what are we up to here? >> and i think mccain actually makes a good point there. rand paul by raising the spector of americans sitting in cafes being struck down by u.s. drones, it most people are not concerned about that. it seems crazy. it seems fringe. and in that way, while rand paul did spark this debate and obviously if you were on twitter last night you know people were
into the fear, physically walk into it. look at this point lindsey graham made about the republicans who joined with senator paul in that filibuster yesterday. let's listen to graham. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. you know. i don't even remember the harshest critics of president bush on the democratic side, they had a drone program back then. so what is it all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> you know, this is the fascinating thing about the right wing, and people watching this show are students of it, maybe in danger of it. you have the neocon people like lindsey graham and john mccain who are ready at the snap of the fingers to go to war. that's the first solution. let's go to war. they always have one ready. then you have the very conservative old pat buchanan breed, people like rand paul who are very suspicious of our power being used for any pu
to answer some of the questions that lindsey graham and others have asked as to the rules of engagement as to targeted killings of americans. it was some of the others on the opposite end of it. we were asking for that. they still have questions about benghazi. it's going to sail through committee we expect. what about the floor vote? are we going to have a director of central intelligence by the end of the week? chris. >> well, andrea, you know, i always hesitate to predict. i'm going to go back to my first answer on when they vote. you never really know. i think we probably will. i think what senator feinstein announced this morning is there is more information given on drones and more information on the promise of more information on what happened in benghazi. that that would be enough. now, again, john mccain, republican from arizona, lindsey graham, republican from south carolina, have both said over the weekend on the sunday talk shows that they are holding out the possibility of still holding up the john brennan confirmation vote. my guess is at the end of the day they don't part
. republican senator lindsey graham says he just spoke with the president by phone. take a listen to what he said. >> i'm very encouraged by what i've seen from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i have seen since the early years of his presidency. >> i'm really sorry to repeat history, but haven't we seen this before? the president compromises. the president goes to extreme lengths and guess what happens? the sequester happens. or there's a fight other the debt ceiling, or the continuing resolution will be brutal. what's the point? >> well, you have got a good point. essentially graham is one of the folks who is saying we have to have more revenues. he said he's open to $600 billion to revenues and the president is trying to reach out and see if that can be done. the situation we're in now is paul ryan has essentially a dog ate the homework kind of budget. nobody has to take responsible for these brutal cuts that make no sense and are
, it was obviously lindsey graham and not what he was saying to chuck todd. the flip-flopping relative to the republican base, how do you see that playing? >> well, i think jeb has an opportunity here. much to ron's point on the substance, to really move the party in a different direction and off the particular pinhead it's on right now on immigration to a broader, you know, acceptance of the party of assimilation which we have always at least been historically, this idea that you are all welcome to this great land of opportunity, and i think he has a chance to carve that out. you know, don't try to out, you know, mar are mashco rubio or be more conservative than. if jeb bush is himself and is comfortable in this skin in his space as we have seen him up to this point, don't let the prospects of running for the presidency change you into something you're not. you run into the mitt romney problem, and then it's downhill from there. be himself and bring the party to your reasoning on this subject and i think, i think quite honestly people will be surprised at the response. >> ron, do you
including roy blunt, tom coburn, susan collins, bob porker, lindsey graham, and rob portman. he'll also dine tonight with 11 republican senators at the jefferson hotel and will travel to capitol hill next week to meet with caucuses in both the house and the senate. so far, the good will is being reciprocated. according to senator lindsey graham, what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue since the early days of his presidency. senator majority leader mitch mcconnell is all for daytont. >> frankly, i wish he'd done more of that over the years. we've had, all of us, very limited interaction with the president. he's certainly doesn't have to go through me to call on my members, and i'm sure he will, and i encourage him to do so. >> of course, necessity is usually the grandmother of change. despite several weeks of bully pulpit pressure, even the president acknowledged that his hands are tied unless congress decides to cooperate. >> this idea that somehow there's a secret formula or secret sauce to get speaker boehner or mitch mcconnell to say, you k
the temperature down, and it's worth noting senator lindsey graham put this list together. we have a graphic, i believe, of those who will be attending this evening. these are the senators who have been identified really as showing some sort of willingness to listen to compromise. richard burr, tom coburn, pat toomey, to name just a few of those who will be at the dinner tonight. in terms of what gets accomplished, i don't expect a deal from a grand bargain, but, look, there's no ticking time bomb. there is no stark deadline that they are trying to meet for a fiscal fight, which is really different from what we have seen in past weeks. so this really gives them the opportunity to have some type of conversation on these issues that have so starkly divided them. as you point out, it comes against the backdrop of president obama not reaching out enough to lawmakers on the hill, and also against the backdrop of house speaker john boehner saying he's not planning to negotiate with president obama moving forward. so, there is some hope this will begin to move the conversation forward. president obama
are not sure who is paying for this dinner tonight. senator lindsey graham one of the republicans dining with the president. this might be a dr. phil moment. take a listen. >> i see the president reaching out. everybody wants to, you know, be dr. phil about what he is doing. i'm assuming the president wants to talk serious buy about -- seriously about the issues of the day. he will go up to capitol hill. he rarely does that meet separately with all four democrats. same in the senate. first time he has really done that since 2010, shep. >> shepard: this is a new strategy to do, what? >> well, is he sort of going around the leadership. if you look at some the faces that will be there, more rank and file senators like lindsey graham. not people on the list that not there speaker john boehner mitch mcconnell who he hasn't had a lot of progress with. going through some of the rank and file. is he not worried about that jay carney says this is all about trying to find different ways to bring people together. take a listen. >> frankly, i wish he had done more of that over the years. we have had
. lindsey graham offered some background yesterday afternoon. >> the president called senator mccain and myself a couple of weeks ago, and senator mccain was his opponent, as you all thou know, in 2008. i see the president reaching out. the dinner that was supposed to be quiet is sad that it makes news. >> he's right about that. graham's closest friends were on the list. graham also included republican senators who have a particular interest in the budget debate, so that included pat toomey. graham is the only senator up for re-election in 2014. miguel rodriguez was there. vice president biden, not at the dinner. maybe this is the start of a new outreach. in his first term, mr. obama's outreach to republicans was sporadic at best and though the president bristles when that's pointed out -- >> i promise you, we invite folks from congress over here all the time. and when they choose to come, i enjoy their company. sometimes they don't choose to come, and that has to do with the fact that i think they don't consider the optics useful for them politically. >> the fact of the matter i
, on this a matter of policy, on the use of force, they're probably more in the john mccain and lindsey graham camp than the rand paul camp. however, it was striking to a lot of people that the bright stars of the republican party like florida senator marco rubio and texas senator ted cruz joined rand paul in the filibuster against the obama administration's drone poll sane i think that's what really fired up folks like mccain and graham seeing some of the young stars of the republican party, the young tea party stars going on a tangent regarding national security and foreign policy and the republican party definitely isn't known for. >> let's play what rand paul -- just gave an interview this morning to glenn beck on his radio show. here's a little bit of what rand paul said regarding his critics. let's play it. >> government were comprised of angels we wouldn't need rules and so i try to make it less about president obama and more about what if some day we elect someone who wouldn't -- who would abuse this power? >> senator, there's been some criticism of your filibuster last night including from
lindsey graham, they accused you of theaterics or political stunt i think senator mccain used. is this a fair debate and how do you respond to that? >> i think it's a good debate. i think they're on the wrong side of history. >> greta: do you mind they called it a stunt? >> i don't admire that kind of add homonym, but they've been arguing you can indefinitely detain a u.s. citizen, i asked senator mccain directly can you send a u.s. citizen to guantanamo bay without a trial forever? and his answer was yes, if i deem them to be a safety risk. problem is that's an accusation, if a government or a politician calls you an enemy combatant, is that enough to whisk you off to guantanamo bay or is that enough to have a drone strike on you? and see, both of these senators argue that america is part of the battlefield for the laws of war apply. well, the laws of war sometimes don't involve due process and i acknowledge that. if soldiers -- if the enemy is shooting at our soldiers, there is no due process involved with that, we shoot back to kill. there are no judges and juries, but amer
from killing each other. on thursday mccain and lindsey graham, as you know, skewered mr. paul, particularly his filibuster. so who wins this rare old tussle? is it the old guard or the new guard? >> it is an interesting establishment gop versus this tea party gop -- >> who wins? >> you know, i think rand paul within the conservative bubble comes out looking better. now, obviously to you and me we listen to it and graham and mccain are making more sense. rand paul is fighting a good fight against a problem that does not exist, a wild hypothetical that has not happened, perhaps never will happen. part of the gop's program of like real solutions for fake problems. americans in restaurants can rest assured that they will not be droned. >> i hope jane fonda knows that. >> especially if they're not combatants against america. so they can be comfortable tonight and into the future. but like rand paul 2016 is actually looking better. is he going to win the nomination? probably not. is he going to be president? certainly not. but he can be a player in 2016 and doing that thing we've se
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